romans 6:8 commentary

The next words show this to be the sense. At the same time it is not to be explained as if an ἀεί or the like stood beside συζήσομεν (without falling away), as is done by Tholuck; compare Theophylact. Greek. The argument is plain, but the exact force of live with him is doubtful. Besides, the point is decided by the assertion, ‘we believe.’ It is a matter of faith, and not of present experience. A Access (Romans 5:1-11) – The benefits of justification N New Adam (Romans 5:12-21) – We are children of two “Adams” S Struggle w/ Sin (Romans 6:1-8:39) Struggle, sanctification, and victory. that our union with Christ is such that his death secures our deliverance from the penalty and power of sin, we believe we shall also live with him. This is both a symbolic and a real resurrection from the dead. Also live with him—Live in conformity with his character. J. Williams, The Epistles and Gospels, vol. II. This description is, of course, using physical ideas in order to convey spiritual reality. The perpetuity of the life of Christ is one of the points in which our life is to be conformed to his. In my opinion, the Best All-Around commentary on Romans is the second edition of Douglas Moo’s 1996 commentary on Romans in the New International Commentary on the New Testament (Eerdmans, 2018). But from where can we obtain the power to have this victory over sin? It is therefore at baptism that this love is by the Holy Spirit planted within us; it is then that we are buried with Christ, in order that we may live with Him that life which is in God, in holy affections now and in fulness of joy hereafter. II. Dogmatic belief rather than trust, though the latter is not excluded. ‘We believe.’ — Upon this it is useful to remark, that though the Apostle reasons and deduces from principles, yet we are to be cautious not to consider his doctrine as needing any other support but his own assertion. It becomes an article of our belief that we are to live with Christ. Romans 6:8-18 King James Version (KJV). For whilst what has been described with regard to dying with Christ in Romans 6:3-7 has been largely ‘positional’, although including within it the conception of the ‘death’ of our old life, it has been reinforced as regards our rising with Christ by the life of the Spirit. The aorist. Even to the end the holiest men have remains and stains of sin which they would fain get rid of if they could, and which keep this life from being to them, in all God's grace, a heaven upon earth. Having died unto, or on account of, sin once, he now ever lives to, and with God. Dead with Christ; in the sense above explained-one with him in sympathy, desire, and effort as to the object of his death, the deliverance of his people from sin. Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. To live with Christ, therefore, includes two ideas; association with him, and similarity to him. The parallel.—Is one of death and life. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. This passage does not contain a mere comparison between the literal death and resurrection of Christ, and the spiritual death and resurrection of believers, but it exhibits the connection between the death and life of the Redeemer and the sanctification of his people. (b) Of life. We are not to consider the apostle as merely running a parallel between the natural death and resurrection of Christ, and the spiritual death and resurrection of his people, as has already been remarked, but as showing that, in consequence of union to him in his death, we must die as he died, and live as he lives. The believer understands that the final object which God has in view in crucifying his old man (Romans 6:6) is to realize in him the life of the Risen One (Romans 6:8-9), and he enters actively into the divine thought. Therefore count yourself so and aspire after freedom from sin and life unto God. συζήσομεν αὐτῷ] must necessarily be understood, in accordance with the preceding and following context (Romans 6:11), of the ethical participation in the new everlasting life of Christ. Christ’s resurrection life is not one of inactive repose or passive communion with God, but one of holy service, ceaseless ministry, continual intercession ‘within the veil,’ government of the world, and perfecting of the Church. But this love, as being contrary to our corrupted nature, must be forcibly sustained by doing violence to ourselves, and by all outward means; by frequent communion with Him in prayer and meditation, by giving of alms and active charities, and more especially by a frequent participation of His body and blood. Practical application.—‘Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ.’. He proceeded to explain the effect that our union with Him has on our problem with death. That is the glory of our new life in Christ. That we shall also live with him - This does not refer primarily to the resurrection, and to the future state, but to the present. INTRODUCTION: GOD'S STANDARD . Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, To report dead links, typos, or html errors or suggestions about making these resources more useful use the convenient, Baker Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology, Hastings' Dictionary of the New Testament, Watson's Biblical & Theological Dictionary, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, we believe that we shall also live with him, Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him, if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also, "If" could be translated "Since" (first class condition in Greek that in this case represents a condition genuinely true to reality). The reference or joint-reference to the future glory is not required either by the future, which, on the contrary, demands the same rendering exactly as ἐσόμεθα in Romans 6:5, nor by πιστεύομεν (see above). Swindoll's New Testament Insights (Insights on Romans 6-8) [Charles R. Swindoll] on Amazon.com. Our having died with Him means that we need no longer live in the bondage of sin. I. Shame came into the world with sin, and is still the certain effect of it. Hence learn, That all those that are dead with Christ, have no reason to doubt but that they shall also live with him. You are dead with Christ and alive unto God. Both live unto God. Even those who in the end turn out to be saints and attain to life eternal, yet are not born saints, but have, with God's regenerating and renewing grace, to make themselves saints. no longer dependent on ὅτι, but an independent and therefore all the more emphatic repetition of the important thought: death is no longer Lord over Him, has no more power over Him, such as it once had at the crucifixion. "We hold it as an article of our faith, that we shall be alive with Christ." Paul returns to his main line of reasoning. That is what ‘living with Him’ means while on earth. Now, if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him: Now — rather, since then — believers are one with Christ in His death, they have the certain prospect of for ever living with Him. Romans 6:8 The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. That meaning, therefore, cannot be allowed here. [Note: E.g, Mounce, p152; and Cranfield, 1:312-13.]. In these verses, Paul continues his series of exhortations that deal with a Christian’s relationship to other Christians. Этим он хочет научить нас тому, что христианам всю свою жизнь надлежит стремиться к сему обновлению. Participation of the believer's sanctified life with the life of Christ rather than participation in future glory, which is not the point emphasized. iv., p. 87. Romans 12:6-8 NIV We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. So is it with spirits and souls: an unrenewed spirit could not live in heaven, he would die; an angel could not live in hell. Rev., correctly, we died. If the former, the ἀπεθάνομεν σὺν χριστῷ, be true, we cannot doubt the latter. We believe that we shall also live with him; be like him, through communications received from him, in living to God, even as the branch is like the vine. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: we believe that we shall also live with him. And hereby he teaches us that newness of life is to be pursued by Christians as long as they live; for since they ought to represent in themselves an image of Christ, both by crucifying the flesh and by a spiritual life, it is necessary that the former should be done once for all, and that the latter should be carried on continually: not that the flesh, as we have already said, dies in us in a moment, but that we ought not to retrograde in the work of crucifying it. a 2 How can we who died to sin yet live in it? If we have fellowship with Christ in his death, we have reason to believe we shall have fellowship with him also in his resurrection and life: see Romans 6:5. And this co-operation of course supposes a knowledge, knowledge of the way (Romans 6:6) and of the end (Romans 6:8). Romans 6:6-7, to its positive side, which is likewise exhibited as based on the consciousness of faith ( πιστεύομεν). (b) To the sinner. Spiritually His people live through a Resurrection. For a fuller outworking of the idea of ‘living with Him’ as the Risen One in the present age see Ephesians 2:1-10 where Paul reveals to us something of life in the spiritual realm. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. We shall also live] Then we are said properly to live, when our regeneration is perfected in heaven. And thus, having been freed from the condemnation of sin by our being ‘accounted as righteous’, sin has lost its hold on us. 1. Romans 6:8. Once in a while people ask why I do not give altar calls, where I invite people to come forward to indicate that they want to receive Christ as Savior and Lord. Of course not! Christ ‘died unto sin’; we ‘died,’ and are ‘to reckon ourselves dead unto sin.’ ‘Died unto sin’ is not equivalent to ‘died for sin.’ These are not convertible terms, and we cannot ‘die for sin’ as Christ did. Their ‘death unto sin’ is parallel to this. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 8. 8.Dead with Christ—Dead to a world of sin, as Christ was dead to the world of external things. A Sermon on Romans 5:6-8 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Romans 8:6, KJV: "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." Since the flesh does not submit to the Law, this is clear evidence that … Likewise reckon ye yourselves … alive unto God.’ In both the life is a resurrection life. The Apostle speaks of it as a future life, which it is unnatural to interpret as signifying the believer’s spiritual life here, or as importing the continuation of it to the end of his course. Lesson 44: Understanding the Unbelieving Mind (Romans 8:6-8) Related Media. Through His death and resurrection He has delivered us from ‘the house of bondage’, and from the slavery of sin, as we are accounted righteous and then share His resurrection life. His people, therefore, must be conformed to him; dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God.' Free from Sin, Slaves of Righteousness, Part 1 What is the Meaning of "Under Law" and "Under Grace"? But who are the persons that may be said to be dead with Christ? Being dead He was free from sin and the sway which the law gave to the sin He bore. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Ver. The text exhibits a parallel between Christ’s literal death and resurrection and our spiritual death and resurrection, and not only a parallel, but also the real connection between them. They rise from the death which the law inflicts upon them when they die with Christ. Romans 6:6-7, to its positive side, which is likewise exhibited as based on the consciousness of faith (πιστεύομεν). It tends very much to the clearing of a truth, to observe how the Scripture is fulfilled in it. All Scriptures should be read and understood in the context of the surrounding verses. chap. No, the Christian life is but a shadow of heaven. Were we, namely, obliged to fear that Christ is still subject to the power of death,(1423) that his life is not a perfected life, in that case we should lack the adequate secure ground of faith for that πιστεύομεν κ. τ. λ(1424) The being assured that Christ liveth eternally and dieth no more (Acts 13:34), lends to our faith in our own moral communion of life with Him its basis and firm footing; without that knowledge this faith would be wanting in that which gives it legitimacy and guarantee. It is nothing but the Cross of Christ without us and within us, which changes any one of us from being (as I may say) a devil, into an angel. For as we have already seen (Romans 6:3-5) Christ did not just die. Now, I suppose most persons called Christians do not go further than this—to wish to be religious, and to think it right to be religious, and to feel a respect for religious men; they do not get so far as to have any sort of love for religion. This does not imply that faith is not required, but shows that faith consummated by baptism into the death of Christ is the determinator. The Apostle now resumes his main thought. Having been conjoined with Him in His death, we are, and also will be, conjoined with Him in His resurrection (Romans 6:5), both now (Romans 8:10; John 5:24; Galatians 2:20) and in eternity (Romans 8:11; John 5:28-29). Whosoever has died with Christ is now also of the belief that his life, i.e. That the life here mentioned is the life after the resurrection, as in verse 5th, appears from the phraseology. There are several excellent commentaries on Romans in recent years. This thought would only keep us aloof from that faith and make it a moral impossibility for us, since it would set before us the prospect of a similar perishing of the new life which we had gained. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, . J. H. Newman, Parochial and Plain Sermons, vol. Death has no more any dominion over him. However some writers have taken this as referring to our life lived out here and now. In heaven sin will be utterly destroyed in every elect soul. Why should not this privilege be yours? As his life is perpetual, it secures the continued supplies of life to all his members. With Christ (συν Χριστωι — sun Christōi). "Out of the strong comes forth sweetness," out of death life; and to resign earthly hopes, pleasures, and advantages does require that the heart hath found something better, the treasure of new affections which it values more. So, too, when we are said to reign with him, to be glorified together, both these ideas are included; see Romans 8:17, and many similar passages. Vow if we died with Christ. The connection.—This lies in the union between Christ and His people. CHAPTER 6. Comp 1 Corinthians 15:25. The *Holy Spirit … Thus we learn from this that in our spirits we are already seated with Christ in heavenly places, operating there with Him, simply awaiting our resurrection body (Ephesians 2:6). But hereafter it will be otherwise. We partake of his life, and consequently our life is like his. To be dead to sin is to be so minded that the atmosphere of sin oppresses, distresses, and stifles us,—that it is painful and unnatural for us to remain in it. Romans 6:8 Context. This being the case, the objection stated in Romans 6:1 of this chapter, is seen to be entirely unfounded. 2. Не потому, что плоть в нас умирает в один миг, как было сказано выше, но потому, что не позволительно пятиться назад в ее умерщвлении. Christ dieth no more. The spiritual life of His people is as undying as His own: its vitality is unquenchable; death cannot hurt it, or end it, or have dominion over it. Sin could no more condemn Him and bring Him to death, the penalty of the law, when by death He had exhausted the law’s penalty. There we learn that God, having raised Jesus up with an act of mighty power (Ephesians 1:19 onwards), has in the riches of His grace also made us alive in Him and has raised us up and seated us with Him in the spiritual realm (Ephesians 2:4-6). the positive active side of his moral being and nature, shall be a fellowship of life with the exalted Christ; that is, shall be able to be nothing else than this. Now if we be dead with Christ - According to what is stated in the preceding verses. Romans 6:8 But if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him; we be dead with = we died together with (Greek. Close with the offer of mercy and enter by faith into union with Christ in His death, resurrection, and life. In his sermon, “Why Christ Had To Die,” author and pastor Stuart Briscoe says: Many years ago when the children were small, we went for a little drive in the lovely English countryside, and there was some fresh snow. We are to recognise that we are partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light (Colossians 1:12). To be alive with Christ is to be so minded that the atmosphere of heaven refreshes, enlivens, stimulates, invigorates us. We live in our bodies in this material world, but we also live in our spirits, as transformed by the Holy Spirit because we are ‘in Christ’ (2 Corinthians 5:17; John 3:1-6), as those who are thrust out into a spiritual world. 2 Timothy 2:11. (a) Of death. Dying, He passed forth from its dominion, having thereby expiated guilt and magnified the law. John Piper Feb 8, 1981 2.5K Shares Sermon. Others, in opposition to the context, hold that what is meant is the future participation of Christians in the bliss of the glorified Saviour (Flatt, Reiche, Maier, following Origen, Chrysostom, Theodoret, Grotius, and Heumann); and others still, at variance alike with the definiteness and unity of the sense, interpret it of the earthly moral and the eternal blessed life together (Sebastian Schmid, Böhme, Rosenmuller; and not rejected by de Wette). 2. Take, for instance, the case of a sick man, when food of a certain kind is presented to him, and there is no doubt what is meant by disgust. The expression refers to the end put to Christ’s connection with sin and our connection with it by death. 8.But if we have died, etc. It has in mind not only future resurrection, but our present life in the Spirit. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. 8. Believers, [Note: E.g, Mounce, p152; and Cranfield, 1:312-13.]. This does not imply any doubt about it, but is rather a taking it for granted: seeing we are dead with Christ by union with him, as our head and representative, and by communion with him in the benefits of his death, and being planted together in the likeness of it; or being dead to the law, sin, and the world, through the virtue and efficacy of Christ's death: we believe that we shall also live with him; not only a life of justification by faith in his righteousness; and a life of sanctification from him, and to his glory; the continuance of which, and a perseverance in it, are firmly believed; but a life of glory and happiness with him hereafter, both in the new Jerusalem, in the new heavens, and new earth, in the glorious state of the church on earth, and in heaven to all eternity; where they shall be personally and visibly with him, in soul and body, and shall live in the most intimate and uninterrupted communion with him, enjoying the highest pleasure, and the most consummate happiness; and are therefore under the greatest obligation, whilst here on earth, to live, not in sin, but to righteousness, and to his praise and glory; with whom they are now dead to sin, and with whom they not only hope, but believe they shall live throughout the endless ages of eternity. Romans 6:8. ἐι, if) The Apodosis falls principally on the verb, we shall live with. Shall we persist in sin that grace may abound? also live with = live also with. It is by recognising that we can rise over sin by His risen power, by us ‘living with Him’. We cannot separate forgiveness of sin from the spiritual life of walking daily with the Lord.. if [since] we died . To this some add the thought of eternal life, others apply the phrase to this exclusively. To be alive is not merely to bear the thought of religion, to assent to the truth of religion, to wish to be religious, but to be drawn towards it, to love it, to delight in it, to obey it. Observe here, 1. etc. And therefore if we have died with Christ, we know and believe that we will also ‘live with Him’, we will share in His resurrection life both now, enjoying newness of life (Romans 6:4), and in eternity. We are in fact raised up here, and, as it were, made alive to him. Now if we be dead ('if we died') with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him - `the future (to use the words of Hodge) referring not to what is to happen hereafter, but to what is the certain consequence of our union with Christ.' So His people, risen with Him, are alive unto God, with a life of holy service, in the cause of righteousness, are priests unto God, are subduing the world to Him as kings. Romans 6:8 f. Carrying onward the discussion by the metabatic δέ; and thereby passing from the negative side of the having died with Christ as proved in personal consciousness ( τοῦτο γινώσκοντες, Romans 6:6) in. Romans 2:6-10. He repeats this for no other end but that he might subjoin the explanation which follows, that Christ, having once risen, dies no more. Rev., correctly, we died. Only men seeking first the Kingdom of God and His goodness will be interested in these writings. Ибо ежели возвращаемся мы к своим мерзостям, то отрицаемся Христа, участвовать в Котором не можем кроме как через обновление жизни, подобно тому, как и Сам Он ведет нетленную жизнь. I. For who can cherish the conviction that he stands in that holy communion of resurrection-life with Christ, if he should be compelled to doubt whether his Lord, though indeed risen, might not again fall a victim to death? Dead to a world of sin, as Christ was dead to the world of external things. This communion of life is the ἐν χριστῷ and χριστὸν ἐν ἡμῖν εἶναι. Romans 6:8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that … So with His people. ‘Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him.’. However, the verses of this morning’s proper are probably less well-known than the soaring climax of this chapter in verses 8:31ff. … Then I came back to the kids, and I said, “Now, children, I want you to follow in my footsteps. As His death dissolved His connection with sin, so, if they be dead with Him, their death has dissolved their connection with it. As God does in Genesis 3, the apostle threatens these Christians with God's utter abhorrence of sin and His unwavering promise to judge it.. Paul later illustrates this process of judgment to the Hebrews: Paul returns to his main line of reasoning. We shall have no earthly wishes, no tendencies to disobedience or irreligion, no love of the world or the flesh, to draw us off from supreme devotion to God. As he lives, so we shall live in holiness. This verse, therefore, is introduced as the ground of the declaration, "we shall live with him," at the close of Romans 6:8. III. This life of Christ, to which we are conformed, is described in the following verses, first as perpetual, and secondly, as devoted unto God. We shall have our Saviour's holiness fulfilled in us, and be able to love God without drawback or infirmity. Believers have died with Christ. 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